[oasis_jane]

Looking for some assistance;

I have a client who is a newcomer to Canada June 07 and has Canadian income, however her husband is still living and working abroad and does not yet have a Social Insurance Number - Is there a way to file this return, or do I have to wait until he arrives in Canada and recieves a Social Insurance Number; I do not want the family to penalized for late filing.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

[Joe]

oasis_jane, on Feb 21 2008, 07:26 PM, said:

I have a client who is a newcomer to Canada June 07 and has Canadian income,
Is there a way to file this return

You dont want to file her return?
You are looking for somebody else to do it?
Or are you concerned about Treaty issues?

Perhaps you could clarify....

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[news4u]

oasis_jane, on Feb 21 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

Looking for some assistance;

I have a client who is a newcomer to Canada June 07 and has Canadian income, however her husband is still living and working abroad and does not yet have a Social Insurance Number - Is there a way to file this return, or do I have to wait until he arrives in Canada and recieves a Social Insurance Number; I do not want the family to penalized for late filing.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

Use all zeros for his SIN; be sure to enter his income on S2; return must be paper filed

[Joe]

news4u, on Feb 22 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

Use all zeros for his SIN; be sure to enter his income on S2; return must be paper filed

EXCUSE me?!

One hopes that not even Hit & Run would do that in the circumstances posted...


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[RL Tax Joe]

Joe, on Feb 22 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

EXCUSE me?!

One hopes that not even Hit & Run would do that in the circumstances posted...
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WOW

[oasis_jane]

Thank You this information was very helpful.

news4u, on Feb 22 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

Use all zeros for his SIN; be sure to enter his income on S2; return must be paper filed

[Joe]

oasis_jane, on Feb 22 2008, 11:37 AM, said:

Use all zeros for his SIN; be sure to enter his income on S2; return must be paper filed
Thank You this information was very helpful.

What????

That would be ridiculous.

If this is what you want to do in the circumstances posted, the file should instead be referred to a Professional Accountant...

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[BalancedBooks]

oasis_jane, on Feb 22 2008, 03:37 PM, said:

Thank You this information was very helpful.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL


Let us know how you make out filing this return.

[David Blue]

Had one file last year. No S.I. number. Non Resident. Completed return. Attached letter with circumstances, Client attached cheque for balance owing. Presto, CRA accepted, Received NOA. ,,,,,Thank your for filing your Tax return, etc. balance owng nil.,, O yes inclucded clients social security number. CRA Called, explained again, File closed.

So yes you can if you have to file a return without a SIN number. Not recommended but it can be done.

[Joe]

David Blue, on Feb 22 2008, 05:09 PM, said:

Had one file last year.

Your client last year may have been in a different situation...
.....But that is not even the issue....

You havent read the details of the OP closely enough.....

The OP appears a bit confused, and apparently does not wish to clarify.

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[louiskam]

Laura, I'm sure you're not alone in this type of situition. From what I gathered so far, if your concern is the husband's S.I.N. application, try 1-800-959-8281. With proper identification records on hand, he'll get one within weeks. If not available then, submit his T1 return along with the S.I.N. application copy will also help.

[ChrisG]

louiskam, on Feb 22 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

Laura, I'm sure you're not alone in this type of situition. From what I gathered so far, if your concern is the husband's S.I.N. application, try 1-800-959-8281. With proper identification records on hand, he'll get one within weeks. If not available then, submit his T1 return along with the S.I.N. application copy will also help.

Since when can foreign nationals who are not prmanent residents of Canada be eligible to obtain a S.I.N.?

[Joe]

louiskam, on Feb 22 2008, 06:55 PM, said:

Laura, I'm sure you're not alone in this type of situition. From what I gathered so far, if your concern is the husband's S.I.N. application, try 1-800-959-8281.

I just gotta be obnoxious here...


And another one out to lunch who wants CRA to issue SINs.... :o

- People, they DONT... (ITNs maybe, but SINs, NON)



and not only that, but apparently for the reason to enable 6 Billion Canadian paper T1s to be to be filed....

- People, they DONT...


Perhaps you all are employed by the Canadian Forestry industry.. :D

Either that or starting out the tax season very punch-drunk already... :o


Maybe the real facts are in fact different, but all we have to go on at the moment is what the OP has actually posted....



Edit:
I'm glad to see that at least RL_Tax_Joe and ChrisG are awake... (and probably BalancedBooks)....;)
So far wet noodles to louiskam and David.... :P :P

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[unknown]

oasis_jane, on Feb 21 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Looking for some assistance;

I have a client who is a newcomer to Canada June 07 and has Canadian income, however her husband is still living and working abroad and does not yet have a Social Insurance Number - Is there a way to file this return, or do I have to wait until he arrives in Canada and recieves a Social Insurance Number; I do not want the family to penalized for late filing.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Laura

Seems like a lot of you guys need new glasses.

Questions to ask:

Does husband have Canadian income

Does the resident Canadian wife have a social insurance number

Does the non resident alien husband`s non-existent - which will for 2007 remain non-existent social insurance number, as he does not qualify for one - have to be on her tax return

So what is the problem here.

Lady, file the return (would suggest some professional help filing it), but with the info I have, I do not see any inpediment.

[JohnV]

Mmmmm....too much left unsaid\unasked

Is the husband a deemed resident of Canada? Did he "land" and return to his native country, having established residency here?? Does he want to be a Canadian resident?

The missing sin is not that big of a deal...a covering letter should suffice.....well as long as he's sending a cheque in. Doubt CRA woiuld be as co operative if a refund's due...


I'm assuming wife has a SIN.

[Joe]

JohnV, on Feb 22 2008, 08:05 PM, said:

.too much left unsaid\unasked

You certainly can say that again

- in fact its quite possible that the wife could even need to file a non-resident return, depending on the Treaty, since the family is so fractured and hubby remains in his homeland...

But the OP has not addressed my request for clarity above (#2), so we will never know...

A mystery novel with the last 3/4 of the book torn out and missing.....

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[unknown]

entirely possible

My point was, that a large number of posters were falling all over themselves, being concerned with HIS sin number, and it appears that he does not even file a Canadian return, from the info provided.

[Joe]

Bert_Mulder_CGA, on Feb 22 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

My point was, that a large number of posters were falling all over themselves, being concerned with HIS sin number, and it appears that he does not even file a Canadian return, from the info provided.

eggsaacaly....

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[David Blue]

My information was not whether to file a return or not, I was only informing that if she wanted to file a return she could, with or with out a S.I.N. ....... I believe we need to get this Profile forum back to its start up intentions:

To provide assistance to others on how to handle the program with different tax situations...... Not how to do T1 and T2's.
Work around on the bugs of the program.
How to best utilize the program.
and other devious design flaws put in by Profile programers.

[Joe]

David Blue, on Feb 23 2008, 02:19 PM, said:

I was only informing that if she wanted to file a return she could

In the best interests of the client, that may of not been the best answer.


Q:  "Is there a way to file this return"

A:  Well.. Hopefully not...


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