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Posted 30 April 2007 - 07:12 PM

When a person receiver US Social Security Profile allows up to a $2000.00 pension income deduction on Line 314. 2 clients have had theirs sent back owing more becaust CRA says that US Social Security doesnt qualify. Who is right? Thanks
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 07:59 PM

perhaps you entered it on the wrong line of the return?
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:12 PM

View PostPaperworker, on Apr 30 2007, 03:12 PM, said:

2 clients have had theirs sent back owing more becaust CRA says that US Social Security doesnt qualify.

Pension credit the lesser of $2,000 or 85% of the Gross US Social Security.

I'm with Bert....... maybe you didn't enter it in the proper area. You'll know if you did.... as Profile calculates the 15% which is not taxable and automatically puts it on line 256 of the return.

None of my returns have been sent back to disallow a pension credit based on Social Security..... and this is the only source of pension income for some of my clients.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 10:49 PM

View PostBert_Mulder_CGA, on Apr 30 2007, 07:59 PM, said:

perhaps you entered it on the wrong line of the return?

I went to "Slips" then Foreign Pension Income and enterred $1782.00 on line labled "US Social Security Benifits" Line 256 reads $303.14 and line 314 on SH1 reads $1714.81. I have been trying again to get through to CRA but no luck
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:06 PM

Pension Credit

Obviously not written by the same CRA rep that Paperworker is dealing with.....lol said:

Foreign pensions (incl. US Social Security)
The amount of foreign pension that is not deductible at line 256 is still eligible for this amount.


http://www.cra-arc.g.../314/qa6-e.html
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 01:46 AM

View PostPaperworker, on Apr 30 2007, 05:49 PM, said:

I went to "Slips" then Foreign Pension Income and enterred $1782.00 on line labled "US Social Security Benifits" Line 256 reads $303.14 and line 314 on SH1 reads $1714.81. I have been trying again to get through to CRA but no luck



That is not where you put it

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Foreign Income
U.S. Social Security Benefits

If you do this correctly, S1 will say $1,514.70 on line 314 with a US Social Security of $1,782.00 which is 85% of the social security
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 01:59 AM

View PostTim Parris, on May 1 2007, 01:46 AM, said:

That is not where you put it

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Foreign Income
U.S. Social Security Benefits

If you do this correctly, S1 will say $1,514.70 on line 314 with a US Social Security of $1,782.00 which is 85% of the social security

Dont forget it converted US $1782.00 to $2020.95 CDN on Line 115 (US Average) thus 85% is $1717.81 . I entered $1782.00 on the line which reads "US Social Security Benifits) on the foreign income form
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:41 AM

Ah, when you said slips, I though you meant OtherIncome screen.
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 02:47 AM

I'm with SPG on this one. The CRA worker who rejected the return is wrong.

See web page http://www.cra-arc.g.../314/qa6-e.html for the detail, print it and request an adjustment.
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